Question: What
cameras have you been using
on recent projects?
Victor Goss: Well,
the last show was Panasonic (Oliver Beene), the
show before that (Odyssey Five) I used two Sony
Cine-Alta's, the show before that (Grounded For
Life) I used three (3-perf) Panaflex GSIIs. This
show (Carrie) is unusual. We're using five cameras,
which is a lot of cameras for a series.
Question: What's
your feeling comparing Panasonic's VariCam and Sony's
CineAlta (HDCAM)?
Victor Goss: In
a nutshell, the Sony is perceived to be higher-level
camera because of its 1080 resolution. It's also
got the support of Panavision and the sort of beta
testing that's been going on using the camera in
the field on a lot of different shows now. On the
other hand, the Panasonic has got much better color
representation than the Sony does.
As far as my perception
is concerned, and a number of other photographers
I have spoken to, the Panasonic just has a better
way of handling color. It has a sort of a greenish
shift to it so that it really handles colors like
khaki and beige and stuff beautifully - really wonderful
colors. That's important to me? that plus the fact
that it overexposes a lot like film does. You know
you just get sort of pale washed highlights -- instead
of a lot of compression artifacts in overexposed
areas like landscapes and so forth. Those two things
are a big deal, which is why I chose Panasonic for
this show.
Question: What
about resolution differences between the HD cameras?
Victor Goss: A
problem with HD is that the cameras have such edge
sharpness that we have to use diffusion so as not
to make peoples' faces look too nasty. So whatever
difference there is in resolution is immediately
compensated for by the use of diffusion.
If you're doing a film
out and you're going to a film negative for a feature
film release, I have heard that there's a real difference
between the Sony and Panasonic cameras. But I haven't
any direct experience of that, so I'd like to do
some tests to see.
Question: Do
you make use of the different frame-rates provided
on the VariCam?
Victor Goss: Yeah,
we're shooting 60-frames probably at least once
a day to four times a week. These are things that
we normally would have to bring in a film camera
if we wanted to do them. But the majority of time
we're shooting at 24-frames
Question: There have been a number of
shoot-outs between the various cameras...
Victor Goss: There
was sort of a shoot-out at Movieola just before
I came up here -- which would have been about the
middle of May. They did a seminar over there.
They had someone from
Panasonic and someone from Sony showing the cameras
and the audience was asking questions about the
cameras and so forth. And what it boiled down to
when the whole evening was over - here are two cameras
that you can use when you're shooting HD.
I thought that was a
big step forward for Panasonic because Panasonic
has been excluded from the whole mix in most people's
view. And I thought it was the appropriate sort
of comparison.
Question: So
the industry is becoming more aware of choices?
Victor Goss: You
know, when you're shooting film you've got Arriflex,
and you've got Panaflex and you've got Moviecam
and so forth to choose from and without making any
comments about which one is better or whatever,
those are choices that are made based on the application
and who the cinematographer is and all of the different
reasons. So therefore, it's good to have two cameras
to choose from - you can choose the Panasonic camera,
which has its look, and you have the Sony camera,
which has a different look.
Question: Can
you tell a difference when you watch something,
whether it is film or HD video?
Victor Goss: Sometimes
it's difficult. I think the HD technology has gotten
to where I cannot tell every time whether something
is HD or whether it was film. As a matter of fact,
I'm talking to some other people up here doing another
show and they wanted to see the work that I did,
so I had my agent send my reel up to them and they
looked at it and said yeah, but we want to see some
of the HD work that Victor has done -- and I told
them, well, it's on there, so see if you can find
it. It's some of the better looking stuff.
Question: There's
also the economics of shooting HD.
Victor Goss: In
some ways the economies of shooting in HD represent
financing of projects. Because the $100,000 you'll
save in film and processing at the front end can
now be redirected at the back end of the project,
in postproduction and investments once potential
investors see the end product.
Question: Would you say the attributes
of AJ-HDC27 VariCam are well suited for a film-like
style or storytelling-type of shooting?
Victor Goss: Clearly,
it has a lush filmic look. It is also incredible
in low light. Its representation of color is wonderful
and you can under and over-expose the way you can
with a film camera. I've used all the cameras, the
Sony CineAlta, the Panasonic VariCam, all the film
cameras, and it boils down to using the one that
is best suited to the specific situation. Talking
about which is better is less useful than discussing
what they can or can't do.
Question: Can
you do what you have been doing in your work in
film, with HD?
Victor Goss: Yes.
Definitely. Everybody I talk to about it, I tell
the same thing. Next year, a majority of television
projects are going to be shot on HD. So the better
positioned you are to use it, the more success you
will have. It may turn out that I never get to shoot
anything on film again - I don't think that will
be the case - but if it is the case, I want to know
that I can have something that will live up to my
standards.
Question: What
would you tell fellow cinematographers about Panasonic's
VariCam?
Victor Goss: You
know, there are a lot of cinematographers in Hollywood
who are really worried that for their next project
it will be mandated that it be shot on HD, and they're
wondering if they will be able to achieve the same
standards that they have set with their film work.
With this camera, the answer is a resounding --
yes.
I think film is here
to stay like everyone says it is, but we're going
to be shooting a lot of TV in HD and you'd better
learn how to do it well. It just requires a little
understanding and practice and a camera set up in
a way that you know what the limitations are. It's
a real short learning curve.